HomeMy WebLinkAbout2023-10-11 Commissioner Minutes
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11, 2023
The Franklin County Commissioners met Wednesday, October 11, 2023, with the following
members present: David S. Keller, John T. Flannery and Robert G. Ziobrowski. Chairman Keller
presided and after calling the meeting to order, a Moment of Silence, and the Pledge of Allegiance,
proceeded with the business of the day.
The meeting was live streamed.
Commissioner Robert G. Ziobrowski motioned to approve the agenda which was seconded
by John T. Flannery. Carrie Gray, County Administrator, asked for a modification to the agenda
today to exclude the Prison Board items. She explained that the Prison Board met yesterday and
the vouchers were approved so there is no need to convene the Prison Board today. The Jail
vouchers should be included with the regular vouchers for Board approval. The Commissioners
accepted the revision and unanimously approved to adopt the agenda with those modifications.
There was no public comment.
On a motion by Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved
all bills presented and ordered paid including the Jail vouchers.
The minutes of the October 4, 2023 meeting were reviewed. On a motion by Robert G.
Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved the minutes.
The Board reviewed Agreements, Contracts and Reports. Commissioner Ziobrowski asked
for more information on the Pictometry contract. Carrie Gray explained that she thinks the end date
may be incorrect but she will confirm after reviewing the contract. She continued that Kara Shindle,
GIS Director, will provide an overview of Pictometry, how we utilize it in the nontax office settings
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imagery and accompanying GIS data that fill a wide variety of uses both internally in the county and
externally in the municipalities, school districts, and law enforcement. She continued that we use the
imagery in practically everything which includes the following: updating the GIS data; updating,
creating and editing data for 911; locating houses for safe dispatching which includes directions to
field pers
municipal plan corrections, reviews, and submissions as well as building permits that go back to the
Tax Office and the Planning Department; and the Conservation District stormwater management
duties. She stated that quite honestly they use it for everything every day and she knows that other
offices look at it as well. Anytime someone from the public calls into
p update parcels when providing that information to the public as well. Commissioner
Ziobrowski said when he is out he is constantly hearing from people that we are reassessing the
address those
Commissioner Ziobrowski asked about the reassessment part of it, he realizes that when we find
additions to properties that we then correct assessments but is this part of a reassessment. Ms.
Shindle responded that if having a reassessment they would need updated imagery in order to help
perform that and in fact several companies who do reassessments do offer significant discounts for
having updated imagery but an imagery flight itself does not create a reassessment. Ms. Gray said
that Eagleview uses planes to fly over to capture the images, and they plan to flyover in the spring of
2024. So Franklin County residents will see planes flying over when those images are captured but
responded 2017 was the last time we had a flyover and prior to that it was 2014 and those were the
only two times the County has conducted flyovers and it usually takes a number of weeks to do the
flyover. Ms. Shindle said that we have to wait for a time when there are no leaves or snow cover.
There has been other imagery created and captured by the State that we also utilize th
cameras to capture. Commissioner Flannery said that Google earth has not been updated around
here for at least three years that he knows of, will this information be used for that? Kara responded
that we are forbidden contractually from sharing with Google but she does know that Google
updates sporadically, there are some places that have been updated but they also have their own
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money and fleets. The pictometry data is slightly different because we also get information that is
not Google and we will use it to publish our updates to Google. Commissioner Ziobrowski said that
one of the cost benefits was the possibility of finding additional improvements to properties that had
did it which was largely for assessment which is what he recalls. Kara said a lot about sharing the
information and when the board went to Chester County many years ago they had a system where
they shared information with their municipalities but there was a cost associated with that. He asked
if we are charging any of these entities for the use of data. Kara responded that not currently
because we have data sharing agreements with our municipalities, there is a separate contract if
they want to utilize the imagery and they get requests quite a bit from the municipalities for updated
imagery on a regular basis because it's integral to many of their needs especially with mandates
increase our
assessments due to Pictometry. Ms. Gray said it looks like the total tax dollars from 2019 through
2023 using the 2017 flyover the annual revenue generated compounded from 2019-2023 it was
$914,885. So in 2019 the tax dollar income was $18,
compounded every year to get to that total that she gave them. Commissioner Ziobrowski stated
that with those kinds of rates it had to accelerate dramatically to get to the $914,000. Ms. Gray
responded that it accelerated in 2021 to $180,000, 2022 to $272,000 and 2023 to $372,000.
Commissioner Ziobrowski said his recollection is when we have appropriately assessed properties
for
consistent basis so the income that we are getting from appropriately assessing properties will more
than pay for this contract with Eagleview and all though some people resent the fact that their
everyone should pay their fair share and properties that have improvements that have never been
assessed are paying less than their fair share. Ms. Gray gave a personal example from her family of
assessment was reduced once the county found out. Ms. Gray explained the steps with the appeal
process where property owners can explain the situation in their case and talk about what happened
to necessitate the change. Commissioner Ziobrowski said he is pleased with the program and he
knew the answers to some of his questions but he wanted to articulate for the record since this is a
large contract and there have been some controversy in the county about our drone system.
Chairman Keller said we do continue to pick up some adjustments in the assessment over time as
we do these flights on a periodic basis but the initial flights had a significant impact and he knows
some school districts commented that they were pleasantly surprised by the additional revenue that
it but once they understood that a lot of those improvements have been in place even before they
purchased the property and that they were not being assessed or under assessed up until that point
most folks were pleased that they had a discount for several years and were happy to pay the
increases as long as the money was spent properly. As a result of the first two flights the additional
revenue to the county more than paid for the cost of the flights and the related benefits to public
rant or trying to find
somebody they are looking at the property and identifying all the potential escape routes which has
thinks it pales in comparison to the public safety benefits that come with it. Commissioner Flannery
said on a personal note he got away with the addition of two decks and a shed for multiple years
before he was caught. But when you hear the full story, it does change your percepti
that when she had to call 911 for her husband a couple of weeks ago she noticed a difference in the
response time between about 20 years ago and now. The response time has decreased
with the first flyover being the spring of 2024. They have been negotiating this contract for the better
part of a year to get to some of the terms including owning some of the images. They recommend
flying again in three years and having access to the software that would allow them to compare the
images for another year or so after that so she is going to talk to the Eagleview representatives
about the contract ending at least in 2028 or 2029 and ask they approve contingent on that end date.
Chairman Keller said kudos to the negotiating team since that cost includes both sets of flyovers.
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it'sbetter quality this time also.
Technology has progressed that we are getting more for less than what used to be. Carrie thanked
Kara for working with them to extend the ability for us to view our own images month to month at
least 4 times. Chairman Keller mentioned that he served on the CCAP Information Technology
Committee and GIS is always a topic of conversation and they are always shaking their heads at
why counties have to do thes
all the state. The state has resumed flights as Ms. Shindle mentioned but the quality is just not there
te will continue to do
necessity and we need to keep doing it. There were no other questions. The items will be decided
upon in the afternoon session.
The Board recessed and will reconvene at 2:00 p.m. for final approval of the items that were
reviewed.
The Board reconvened at 2:00 p.m.
There was no public comment.
The Board reviewed Department of Emergency Services matters. On a motion by Robert G.
Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved the grant agreement between the
County of Franklin and the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency (PEMA) for the FY2023-
2024 Hazardous Materials Response Fund (HMRF) Grant in the amount of $12,608.00, for a
performance period of July 1, 2023 through September 30, 2024. The full term of the grant
agreement is July 1, 2023 through October 30, 2024. Funds are to be used to develop, update,
exercise and purchase equipment for response to hazardous material releases.
The Board reviewed additional Department of Emergency Services matters. On a motion by
Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved Resolution 2023-17 to
authorize the County Administrator to be the authorized signatory for agreements and invoices
processed through the Commonwealth's Single Application System and Keystone Login Service
(eGrants). This resolution also authorizes the Administrative Officer to create and submit all needed
applications on behalf of the Franklin County Department of Emergency Services.
The Board reviewed additional Department of Emergency Services matters. On a motion by
Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved the agreement
between the County of Franklin and the Vigilant Hose Company, Emmitsburg, MD to formalize First
Responder's access, use and associated responsibilities for third-party web-based remote alerting
applications.
The Board reviewed additional Department of Emergency Services matters. On a motion by
Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved the agreement
between the County of Franklin and the Waynesboro Volunteer Fire Department to formalize First
Responder's access, use and associated responsibilities for third-party web-based remote alerting
applications.
The Board reviewed GIS matters. On a motion by Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by John
T. Flannery; unanimously approved for the Chairman of the Board to execute the agreement
between the County of Franklin and Pictometry International Corp. for the purchase of imagery
flights and accompanying data at a cost of $444,938.00 for the period of October 11, 2023 through
October 10, 2025. Images/data is used by a variety of municipalities, school districts, and LEOs, as
well as County departments, including but not limited to 911, DTF, Sheriff's, GIS, and Tax for many
daily processes, including assessment and board appeals. These flights allow us to update existing
GIS databases, answer questions for the public, provide clear directions for field Emergency
Personnel, allow law enforcement (internal and external) to provide situational awareness during
field visits, and also allow the Tax Office to perform assessments and provide evidence for board
appeals.
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The Board reviewed Grants matters. On a motion by Robert G. Ziobrowski, seconded by
John T. Flannery; unanimously approved the grant application to PA Commission on Crime and
Delinquency (PCCD) to request funding from the 2024 Residential Substance Abuse Treatment
(RSAT) Program Grant to allow the Franklin County Jail (FCJ) to expand the number of Sublocade
injections that can be provided to participants along with previously established medication options
used in Medication Assisted Treatment (MAT). The grant request is for the amount of $266,704.00
for the grant period of January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2025.
The Board reviewed Property Management matters. On a motion by Robert G. Ziobrowski,
seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved for the Chairman of the Board to execute the
quote from Privacy Glass Solutions to purchase 10 windows with the between the glass privacy
blinds for courtroom doors at the New Judicial Center at a cost of $5,892.55. These will replace
windows that are inoperable.
The Board reviewed additional Property Management matters. On a motion by Robert G.
Ziobrowski, seconded by John T. Flannery; unanimously approved for the Chairman of the Board to
execute the proposal from RA Hill, Inc. to provide snow removal services that will include plowing
and snow removal at the Courthouse Complex, Administrative Annex, and Franklin Farm Lane on an
as needed basis for an estimated cost of $5,000.00 for the period of January 1, 2024 through
December 31, 2024.
In accordance with PA Act notifications, martin and martin, inc. notified the County of a
Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection PAG-02 NPDES permit being applied by KLS
Investment Properties for preliminary/final land development plan on property located in the Borough
of Mercersburg.
In accordance with PA Act notifications, Rettew notified the County of a Pennsylvania
Department of Environmental Protection general permit No. 5 (GP-5) being applied by UGI Utilities,
Inc. for the Woodstock Road culvert gas main relocation on property located in Greene Township.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:13 p.m. with a motion by Robert G. Ziobrowski; seconded
by John T. Flannery.
Carrie E. Gray
County Administrator/Chief Clerk
FRANKLIN COUNTYCOMMISSIONERS
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David S. Keller, Chairman
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John T. Flannery
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Robert G. Ziobrowski